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| Genres: | CrimeDramaWest |
| Starring: | Guy Pearce, Noah Taylor, Bryan Probets, Richard Wilson, Danny Huston, Ray Winstone, Robert Morgan |
| Director(s): | John Hillcoat |
| Available Quality: | DivX, Hi Def, iPod, Hi Def, Hi Def |
| Country: | UK, Australia |
| Year: | 2005 |
| IMDB Rating: | 7.5 |
Rural Australia in the late nineteenth century Capt. Stanley and his men capture two of the four Burns brothers, Charlie and Mike. Their gang is held responsible for attacking the Hopkins farm, raping pregnant Mrs. Hopkins and murdering the whole family. Arthur Burns, the eldest brother and the gangs mastermind, remains at large has and has retreated to a mountain hideout. Capt. Stanleys proposition to Charlie is to gain pardon and - more importantly - save his beloved younger brother Mike from the gallows by finding and killing Arthur within nine days.
Visitor Reviews: (20)wrlang 13 May 2012
The Proposition is about a police captain and a criminal who enter intoa deal for the criminal to bring back his animal of an older brother inorder to save his wimpy younger brother and himself from a deathsentence. The brothers are accused of raping and killing the pregnantgirl friend of the Captain's wife, among many other things. Theseintricacies cause all kinds of problems for the captain and the 'good'brother. Then the mayor of the town gets involved and screws up thedeal by killing the younger brother. As things go this film is slow,but just interesting enough to keep your attention. Technically a goodfilm with lots of good sequences and scenery. Some gore and a verydirty looking cast.
sammy 12 May 2012
A dark western . Characterised by fierce and unrelenting themes of coldblooded violence and remorseless brutalities. Gory , bloody andshockingly fiendish. The story is pretty straightforward and like all good westerns this onetoo deals with the theme of " What is Evil and What is Good?"Contains many scenes involving graphic violence which add to the darknature of the movie.Ray Winstone steals the show with a spectacular performance as theguilt stricken yet resolute lawman . Guy Pearce's role is important forthe script though receives considerably less screen presence than someof the others.With good locations and cinematography the movie does hold the viewer'sattention for it's entire length .A very serious western , mind you. The story is simple , the themescomplex and the hues dark .
07 May 2012
From watching Director John Hillcoat's harsh Western The Proposition you'd never figure that Australia - once England's rag-tag colonial outpost and dumping ground for all the trash - would eventually become one of the most prestigious and wealthiest countries in the world with a standard of living that is unparalleled anywhere. In this film we see a portrait of Australia on the brink, it's the 1880s and it's a dark and bleak time where violence is a way of life and where the English settlers are trying to forge out a way of life that doesn't fit with the harshness of the landscape. Bringing the stink, the blood, the ramshackle homes and the flies and dust to life, The Proposition centers on the grizzled British lawman Captain Stanley (Ray Winstone) as he tries to bring his version of frontier justice to his patch of wild Australia. Stanley is prepared to strike a deal, a "proposition" with outlaw Charlie Burns (Guy Pearce), to spare Charlie's younger bother Mikey (Richard Wilson) from the gallows, if Charlie will track down and kill his older brother, Arthur (Danny Huston), a vicious murderer. As Charlie races against time to find Arthur he travels into the treacherous outback where he is attacked and wounded by Aborigines but saved by Arthur, who takes Charlie to his hideout. A bounty hunter (marvelously played by John Hurt) nearly captures the entire gang before Arthur again saves his brother. Charlie's venture is juxtaposed with the awkwardly tender home life of Stanley where he struggles to shield his innocent wife Martha (Emily Watson) from the harsh realities of this brutal land. Mostly, he wants to keep from her the truth about what happened a close friend of hers who was raped and killed by Arthur Burns. Of course the white man's strained relationship with the aborigines is highlighted with a subplot involving Stanley's superior, Fletcher (David Wenham) who not only pressures Stanley to do something about a group of renegade Aborigines, but also incites a mob into flog Mikey nearly to death in front of Martha, which dooms the proposition.The actors are marvelous here, with Winstone and Watson stealing the show as Stanley and Martha. You really get the feel that they're both a fish out of water in this hellish environment, but for different reasons. The hushed, courteous interaction between the couple is splendid, the actors creating a complex dynamic of a husband trying to shield his porcelain bride from the world's cruelty, yet also coming to realize his wife is far less fragile than he believed.The problem with The Proposition is that the story is a bit disjointed and at times is hard to follow with the writer Nick Cave laying on all the heavy handed polemics and arty symbolism a bit too heavily - there's lots of sitting around wistfully looking at sunsets etc. As the violent tragedy unfolds and characters - especially the Burns brothers - advance toward their destinies, the story explores the dark side of a history too often shimmering in myth. What emerges in The Proposition is a country all too often on the brink, a savage and repressive environment and an ugly reminder that nation building is chaotic and often an endeavor that is saturated in blood, brutality and sacrifice. Mike Leonard September 06.
06 May 2012
Surprisingly, The Proposition turned out to be a good movie.... though pretty brutal at times with the nonsensical violence. I guess that is part of what made it a good movie, although,it is sometimes hard to watch because of it. It is a little slow moving here and there, so don't be expecting constant action. It is definitely worth watching if you like western type movies.
06 May 2012
After recently leaving his older brother's (Arthur) gang, a dirty, skeletal bad guy named Charles Burns (Guy Pierce) has taken along his younger brother (Mikey), keeping him away from more senseless slaughtering on the behalf of the gang (you have to love how into character Guy Pierce gets). The arid countryside of Australia is rough, and being a criminal makes it even worse. And when Captain Morris Stanley, a driven law-man who fancies himself as an Aussie version of Wyatt Earp, decides to go after the three brothers, there is major trouble for Charles.Both brothers are soon captured, and that is when Morris presents the proposition to Charles: find and kill his brother Arthur, or his younger brother Mikey will hang. It's obviously a difficult choice; he seemingly has to decide between saving a more naïve younger brother, or allowing his older brother, a man referred to as an abomination, to live freely.What follows is a search by Charles and Morris amongst the Aborigonies for Arthur Burns, a man who has been given a Crocodile Dundee-level, mythical status by the locals. He's someone to be honored and feared, so much so that shape-shifting powers have even been attributed to him, as if he were magical and able to change into a dog at will. Not so much. Charles finds his brother and is forced to make the ultimate decision.This film's deliberate moral ambiguity is it's strength, and the conclusion provides yet another difficult moment, where good and bad are not completely clear, and the best characters can do is grasp onto the belief that God works in mysterious, albeit seemingly unjust and perverse ways. There are several major flaws to this movie. The first, and clearly the worst, is Morris' wife Martha, a busybody moron ruled entirely by emotions, constantly interfering where she is neither wanted nor supposed to be. She's just a dreadful character. Aside from her considerable attempts to ruin the movie, there were also some very poorly done camera shots, and a storyline looser than an all fiber diet. Perhaps it was just that there was too much focus on Morris and not the others. It's the absolute lack of meaningful character development that really hurts this film. At the end of the movie I didn't empathize with a single character; in fact, I loathed everyone except Morris. Last but not least, the audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's merely an aspect of the DVD transfer, or just amatuer movie making, but watching it is difficult without either missing something or getting eardrum injuries - choose your own agony.It's a fairly good movie, with great acting and some interesting aspects, but it's lacking in too many ways to be considered a great movie.
05 May 2012
In 1880s Australia, a lawman makes a deal with a bandit to bring his murderous brother to justice. Simple story about the brutality of frontier life has direction, cinematography and characters reminiscent of the best 60s spaghetti westerns such as "Once Upon a Time in the West" (1969). Viewers may also enjoy the similar-styled "The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada" (2005) and "No Country for Old Men" (2007).
05 May 2012
Note, this is not a review, but instead is a thematic overview of this often brillant film:In the final frame of "The Proposition" there is a contrast between the film's narrative meaning and the meaning behind the film, in which a character asks in their final breath in the last line of dialogue, "What`s next?" When taken into account these themes in the film, one can not help but see this difference-- the sun will rise to another day, but to what purpose for humanity-- as nothing is definitive, human life can be thought as nothing more than an experiment, especially considering the history of human self-destruction. It asks the audience to question if human existence is nothing more than a flash in the pan, or does it have a purpose in galaxy's ultimate design? Now, this does not at all mean there should be belief in a higher power. The film makes a case that the human race will survive or fail due to how the race carries out the means for achieving fulfillment. "The Proposition," however, often times has a more pessimistic, even bitter, philosophy with its thought that we cannot break away from or ancestry begotten by animal, or the nature of survival of the fittest-- and though this notion is looked down on in the film by one of the characters-- the statement also comes with a sense of satire. It can also be interpreted as the belief that many humans are too caught up in there own sense of being, in the way that they believe they were indeed created individually by a higher power-- not even fathoming that we may just be the next step on the ladder in evolution, much like the cavemen; never bringing up that it can also can be "god's evolution," as well.The film, which takes place in the 1880's Australian Outback, starts with a barrage of gunfire, blood spurting, and humans drawing their last breath, and the realization comes to the viewer that "The Proposition" is a western from the pen of Nick Cave, who is the legendary-and-literate Post-Punk/ Goth rocker of The Birthday Party, The Bad Seeds, and Grinderman. We then fade into: the actual proposition being made in the movie, as it follows outlaw, Charlie Burns (Guy Pierce,) and it being given to him by Captain Stanly ( Ray Winstone) after his younger brother Mike ((Richard Wilson) and he is captured by the Captain in a shootout after their band killed a local family. See, the Captain tells Charlie that he must find his psychopathic older brother, Arthur, (Danny Huston,) and kill him, because if he does not he will hang Mike, in nine days, which is also Christmas day.It is with this triage at its core that the film's themes lie in the Darwinian theory of evolution, survival of the fittest, and that belief that though humans are derived from the apes-- our Neanderthal impulses are still one and the same. Yet, despite this concept, this side of the narrative of the film is not as interesting as it could be, nor is it as suspenseful or emotional at its core--simply, lacking the dramatic arc that could be achieved. Yet, there is another more interesting parallel story to make up for it in the form of the Captain Stanly character's reluctance to show or tell his wife Martha (Emily Watson) the horrors that surrounded her simple, upper-class life.Apart from the morality play and survival aspects, a social commentary points out the upper class's illusion to the harsh and bitter world of urban society. There are many scenes in the film that show that those who are in the dark to the harsh underbelly of the world, whether they choose it or do not, are more ignorant to those who live with violence and persecution daily. This theology is shown in a whipping scene in which the mob of people who want an accomplice to a murder to be lashed to death for his crimes find that this man hurts like any other. Yet, he is but a boy, so who is the real monster? It should also be pointed out that all the characters of the film, even the psychotic rapist-murderer Arthur, (who holds the family unit as a high value) are neither good nor bad. The characters do what they feel is right, and especially what fits their method of survival and fulfillment. The film points out the facts, that all humans do this to some degree.As, even more than a hundred years later, and even across the world in America, the newspapers and television programs account that the human race may be doomed-- and "The Proposition" will surely be the film to play at the funeral.9.5 (Out of 10 in 0.5 increments)
dhlough 05 May 2012
John Hillcoat's The Proposition, written by singer Nick Cave, has aeulogistic beginning. A dirge plays beneath 1880's photos of Outbacklife, a solemn opening shattered as we're plunged  in medias res Âinto the capture of the Burns brothers, Charlie (Guy Pearce) and Mikey(Richard Wilson), wanted murderers. The sequence's punch  thereflective tone against animalistic conflict  sustains stretches ofnarrative that forsake character detail for archetypal flavor.Hillcoat's spatial compositions are superb. His Outback is as raw andunprotected as the characters. We learn that Mikey Burns is a hothead,Charlie his elusive protector, and there is a brother, Arthur (DannyHuston), the gang-leader they've forsaken for reasons unexplained.Their captor, Captain Stanley (Ray Winstone), proposes to spare Mikey'slife if Charlie brings Arthur in by Christmas Day. The townspeople wantvengeance. Stanley wants civilized justice, and to protect hissensitive wife (Emily Watson) from the grizzly details of the murders.Pearce, Winstone and Watson are effective; remarkable even consideringthe self-conscious sparseness of the script. Cave gets mileage from hisarchetypes  these situations are fresh to him  but the movie aimshigh with shades of better films; the Leone westerns, and  inCharlie's search for his brother  Apocalypse Now. But Arthur is noKurtz. Danny Huston, creepy as Arthur, is given poetic fits of Irishblather to spew (the family's from the old country). Pearce, in highgrunge mode, skillfully becomes the isolationist myth that Cave throwsat him. He's like a Clint Eastwood drifter, but with an actor at thecore. Yet the longer the film goes on, the less we care, because we'rewitness to the pulping of an historical moment. For all its supreme,harsh vistas and observed details, The Proposition is ultimately asmartly directed, frustrating disappointment.
Steven Dinnie 25 April 2012
I always think that a truly great film ought to pose questions ratherthan make statements, but a film should always entertain. This was whythe Hurt Locker worked, this is why the Proposition works.A simple tale, like a lot of really great stories, of a middle brotherin outback Australia who is captured by the police and told to kill hisolder brother in order that his younger brother may be spared. Thestory swaps between the journey of Charlie Burns(Guy Pearce) andbetween the police chief, Captain Stanley (Ray Winstone) and hisefforts to stabilise the town and protect his wife.The character journeys, both the predictable one of Charlie Burns fromoutlaw to vigilante (a subtle distinction perhaps) and the moresurprising change of Captain Stanley from being the chief villain, forputting Charlie in the questionable moral position, and by the endbecoming perhaps the most morally straightforward of the characters.The performances are solid throughout, the cast of sort of alternativegreat actors including memorable supporting performances from DavidWenham and Emily Watson really strut their stuff. There are a lot ofscenes in the film which cater to the actors abilities, a lot of sceneswhere the emotional barometer is really high.The cinematography is also really accomplished. John Hillcoat has goneon to direct the Road and the setting (filmed on location in Australia)seems to led itself nicely to impressive cinematography. Anyone who cantake a lens cap off should be able to direct an incredible piece ofcinema, but everything Hillcoat does with the camera feels like (to meat least) early Kubric, characters are put centre stage, there is a lotof symmetry and use of really fantastic imagery, even when there arefairly standard interior interchanges, Hillcoat creates beautiful andstriking images.Most importantly is the feel of the film, I felt all the way throughlike there was a kind of a longbow being drawn. Right at the start thearrow is laid, ready to fire, and all the way through the pressure isbuilding and building, until the point when the arrow is released, andin a flurry of violence and power, finishes the cycle of the film.A wonderfully violent and well acted piece of alternative cinema,powerful and shocking and exhilarating. I urge you to see it. Nine anda half out of ten.
24 April 2012
The Bottom Line:All the best westerns are about the nature of order and justice and The Proposition, while set in the Australian outback rather than the old west, understands this completely and probes these themes well; a film of exceptional (albeit never gratuitous) violence but also one which generates many wonderfully quiet moments with Ray Winstone (good as ever) and his wife Emma Watson, this is quite a little movie.3/4
dearlove-james 24 April 2012
This movie is a visceral, violent study of blood-ties exploring ethnicand family bonds, feuds, loyalty and betrayal. You can literally smellthe reeking sweat, blood and dust of the colonial Outback coming offthe screen. Nick Cave's script is shot through with his signature dark poetry; ittranslates wonderfully onto the screen. Guy Pearce, Ray Winston andDanny Huston put in powerful performances. Emily Watson is also superbbut somehow this film seems to be more about men than women and so herperformance feels a little isolated from the rest of the movie. The film is a strangely skewed morality tale crossed with a tale of theabsurd. There is something so absurd about Captain Stanley's Englishbreakfast and standard roses in the hot, fly-blown wastelands of themovie, and off course there is something so absurd about how violenthumans beings are to each other. Despite all the violence though, someof which is stomach-turning, this movie has some moments of greattenderness and elegy.
23 April 2012
Wow, what a brutal "western." I put "western" in quotes because most people think of the western half of the United States as being the locale for western movies. This movie was made and set in Australia but the time frame is similar: around 1880. What's "brutal" about the story is the violence, bloodshed and language - but only in spots. The language is odd in that the vocabulary of most of the people is above-average, but be warned there are a number of f-words. I question whether that word was around in the 19th century, but it's prevalent in this film. Actually, the violent scenes will be more offensive to viewers than the profanity. Like the profanity, however, the violence only comes in spurts. Most of the film has much calmer moments, surprisingly low-key.One thing that is there throughout the 104 minutes is the excellent cinematography. This is a pretty film, nicely shot with some beautiful scenery and colors, stylish at times, too. To me, this was the best part of the movie. It's indeed a visual treat. Benoit Delholmme deservedly won several international awards for his camera-work in here.
gradyharp 22 April 2012
THE PROPOSITION is one of the more satisfying 'westerns' to come alongin years. Just as Serge Leone created the spaghetti westerns in Italyand set a precedent that American films were to follow, so directorJohn Hillcoat and writer Nick Cave turn the back country of 1880sAustralia into a devastating impressive work of grit, dirt, lawlessnessand hardship of living in the early days of Australia's distance fromBritain. This is an art piece sculpted from brilliant actors, some ofthe finest photography on the screens today, and a film score that isbreathtakingly beautiful.Shot almost entirely in shades of umber and sienna THE PROPOSITION isthe tale of a gang of brothers - Charlie Burns (Guy Pearce), MikeyBurns (Richard Wilson) and hooligan and evil Arthur Burns (DannyHuston) - who have wrecked havoc on a frontier town under the eye ofpolice Captain Stanley (Ray Winstone), married to the lovely MarthaStanley (Emily Watson), and the extremes to which the law will go tocapture the worst of the perpetrators, Arthur. After a gruesome shootout Charlie and Mikey are captured, but Captain Stanley propositionsCharlie to bring in his loathsome brother Arthur to spare young brotherMike from the gallows on Christmas. Charlie rides out to find Arthur,encounters a bounty hunter Jellon Lamb (a brilliant tour de force rolefor John Hurt), mixes with the aborigines, and ultimately confrontsArthur. And that is quite enough of the story to relate in brief.It is the quality of the film that takes your breath away. Not only isthe acting utterly first rate by the entire large cast, but therhapsody of imagery created by the camera of Benoît Delhomme and thehaunting score from the pens of Nick Cave and Warren Ellis give us aframe after glowing frame gallery of some of the most beautiful filmever made. This is a movie so rich in story and production that it isbound to become considered as one of the greats of the western ilk.Highly recommended (for those who can tolerate a lot of violence!).Grady Harp, September 06
21 April 2012
This review is from: The Proposition [Blu-ray] (Blu-ray) If you are a fan of Ray Winstone or Guy Pearce you will defintely want to see this movie. The Plot is thin, it is actually a western, but an Australian Western, with troopers and gunmen, a bit too violent, but realistic of a wild frontier. I amy want to see it again, but not in the near future. By the way, Emily Watson is at her best.
samkan 11 April 2012
After reading a dozen or more of the comments in this section, I mustside with the naysayers. The first half-hour of the film offered somepromise of character development, plot twists, suspense, surprise, etc.Absolutely NONE of these things occurred. Winstone's local sheriff isintroduced as a supreme bogeyman then promptly becomes a confusedhusband for the rest of the film. Pearse runs the gamut of emotionsfrom A to B, barely. The townsfolk, few in numbers probably to savemoney, are almost comical in their zombie state; stumbling around drunkonly stopping to rant and/or stare. The actor playing the youngest Burnbrother does little but squeal in terror. The older Burns is the devilincarnate, though we have not a clue why.We never learn one of the most intriguing plot facts, such as why thethree Burns brothers raped and killed a settler family. This pulls at aviewer because both characterizations of the younger two brothers -what little is provided - suggests that the two could not be guilty ofsuch atrocity. John Hurt's bounty hunter is almost comic relief,serving no real purpose. Finally, the mayor, or local bigwig, seems torepresent someone or something totally alien from the climate and allthe other characters in the film. Ironically, this split between thebigwig's interests and the rest of what you see in the movie is theclosest thing to contrast in the whole thing - the rest of thingssimply represent banality, boredom, evil and debauchery.For a real laugh watch Guy Pearse's interview in the extra's. Mr.Pearse redefines in-articulation and deftly manages to say less thannothing in five minutes of speaking.
11 April 2012
I really wanted The Proposition to be good. It had an excellent cast including the almost always reliable Ray Winstone and the excellent Guy Pearce. However, this film was not as good as I had thought it would be. Sure, it conveys the savagery and the grime of the Australian outback in the 18th century but the story plodded along and the climax of the film was quite disappointing. With such an array of good actors and material, it could have been so much better. The story was written by Nick Cave, the Australian "singer" and dark lord of grumpy indie murder ballads. Sure , it had plenty of violence and pessimism about it but it was gore for the sake of gore and the film ended unsatisfactorily.
staceyedwards0 08 April 2012
I was surprised that this film opened the San Francisco Film Festival,for I left the theater highly disappointed. The violence was gratuitous, the characters completely unlikable -which by the way... If you make a film have ONE likable character. Thescript was slow, the pacing even slower, the editing yep... Evenslower. I know SF loves Nick Cave and I too respect him as amusician... But that script was terrible. The best thing about thismovie, by far, were the performances. Guy Pierce is a great actor, it'sunfortunate that he wasn't given better material.Overalll, slow, disappointing, and depressing.
08 April 2012
If you are looking for a gory, bloody movie, this is it! From the reviews I read about this movie, I thought it would be good, but there was not one thing I liked about it. It was violent and depressing. I am sorry I wasted my money! BTC
Jeremy 05 April 2012
Be grateful. That shower you use? Those things weren't always common. There weren't many in 1880s Australia, in a setting similar to the U.S. wild west. Most everyone in The Proposition is filthy and attracting flies to no end. Several people witnessing an event midway through the movie are shown with hundreds of tiny bugs on their backs, and the main characters find themselves squinting throughout the film to keep them out of their eyes. I was wondering at points if cg was used to add some of them. But I'm also a bit unsure as to why we saw so many. I mean obviously these characters would have a stench, but are the flies an effort to portray something extremely realistic, or was it some sort of metaphor? These are filthy people, making rash decisions, performing unforgivable deeds. They are no better than the corpes which fill the screen occasionally which are also attracting so many flies.This is one of the better westerns I've ever seen. Charlie Burns (Guy Pearce) and his younger brother Mike are capture by Captain Stanley (Ray Winstone). Justice is sought for the recent slayings of a local family. Mike is young and quite helpless, so Stanley focuses on Charlie and offers him a deal. He will let Charlie go for the moment to seek out and kill the one really responsible for the killings: Charlie's older brother Arthur. There isn't much choice in the matter though. If he does not succeed, Mike will be hung in just over a week's time. On Christmas actually. If he succeeds, Charlie and Mike will go free.This is not your typical western. For one, it's exceedingly violent, so I shall dust off my old Bad Boys II Violence Warning here. All sorts of nastiness that would better be left as a surprise. What I perhaps liked the most in the film was how these characters change in your mind. It seems pretty clear cut at the start who the responsible parties are, and who is the "villian" and who can do no wrong. But this will not be the case. It is also not a situation where the plot twists and turns. I would just rather say that the story will progress and get more interesting. The proposition that Stanley offers Charlie in the beginning is certainly the setup for the film, but what are the precise implications for all those involved?Though the setting is a desolate area, the cinematography is still quite breathtaking in several scenes. It even won three separate awards for cinematography, as well as its soundtrack, last year in Australia. So I don't want to say this film was as good as Unforgiven, but comparisons are there. It has an effective look, it's a different kind of western, and there is some truly great dialogue in there. The U.S. release is quite limited, but check it out if you can.
05 April 2012
Maybe the other reviewers are paid to give high praise to this film?I watched it, I continually asked myself "What is the point of this movie?". There was an obvious plot, but it was hidden behind a dozen inconsequential tangents that were boring enough to push me into the kitchen to do dishes while I kept an eye on the movie. Needless to say, I don't feel as though I missed anything while I was bending over putting said dishes away, either.